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Philip N. Diehl
President, U.S. Money Reserve
35th Director, U.S. Mint (1994-2000)
Chief of Staff, U.S. Treasury Department
Staff Director, U.S. Senate Finance Committee
Co-Author of 31 U.S. Code § 5112(k)
Stephanie Kelton
Professor of Economics & Public Policy, Stony Brook University
Chief Economist, Senate Budget Committe (Dems) (2015)
Senior Economic Advisor, Bernie Sanders (2016-2020)
Author, 'The Deficit Myth' (2020)
Rohan Grey
Assistant Professor, Willamette Law
Director, Public Money Action
Joe Weisenthal
Co-Host, Odd Lots Podcast
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That I would say every year. So those are outside of economy. I didn't know this I drove all the people crazy during teaching during students. I can't stand still. Uh, no that actually one of the most sure what
are you? Okay? I don't know if I'm supposed to pay December of the sound is all right talking like that. Is that
Kelton:
「okay?」
Is that working for you
Kelton:
「 Ron over there? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you really to Rowan for organizing this and all the people who do the work on the back and this is my first psychostal event. So this is pretty cool and I impressed already that the technology has gone off without a hitch and we're all here together having this I think really important conversation. So, you know, I'm not an expert on the Platinum point. I'm not a legal expert so my background and I guess expertise is I'm in a different Lane. I'm honest. Macro economists and I teach financing budgeting and as you heard I work in the Senate, so I have a little bit of experience dealing with the sort of budget fights and the kind of stuff that we're being treated to once again today around the Deathstroke fights and so forth for anyone who is an entirely clear about the debt ceiling. I'm still getting questions about what it is from people. I have been writing a little bit about this recently and you know, it is crazy that me in the United States have this thing all the debt ceiling limit not only one other country in the world has and they don't weaponize it the way that we do here. But if you imagine, you know, most of you are law students, am I right here in this room? Okay, so you understand what it means to make a contractual commitment, right? So I think of this and I think like imagine you go into a restaurant. You sit down with Google people and everybody orders their meal and the waiter takes me water off to the kitchen and the chefs get to work preparing wheel. You're on the hook, right? You've placed an order you have an obligation to pay for the food that you've ordered. How many times does the waiter come back to the table while who's being compared and safe. Are you sure you want the Snapper? You really want the scallops that you just it would never happen. Nobody comes back to you and asked you reaffirm your order once you've placed it, but that's that feeling is effectively asking Congress to do like reaffirm the spending that has already been committed through budgeting process with the executive branch. And so it's an it's a crazy thing that we allow this to periodically impede what should be a fairly normal process. I wish the spending has been authorized by Congress is undertaken by treasure, right but now We have this situation where you know two different sort of sets of instructions are being sent on the one hand. This is what we want the executive branch to spend and on the other hand. Oh, by the way, we don't want any more treasuries outstanding that are currently out there, right? So don't issue anymore. And so here we are today with Philip deal man who had played a big part how to hand in drafting legislation that allows it would seem Congress to abide by treasury to abide by everything that it's been instructed to do right don't issue any more treasures and spend what we told you to spend. And by the way, it was Congress who created that Avenue through which Treasuring him do it. All right, and that's what we're here to talk about today. I guess is exploiting what many are calling a loophole and and I'm sure we're going to hear more about sort of the original intent in that legislation and so forth. But the reality is the alternatives are it seems to me pretty Unthinkable whether you violate the constitution in one form or another or you do this thing that on the surface people say that seems a little weird right but I think Joe's in me a really good point about how the coin is like the least weird thing that we do when it comes to creating money and spending and historically it's probably the most normal way to go about making excited. So, yeah, 」
それは毎年言っていることです。つまりそれらは経済以外のことなのです。私はこれを知らなかったので、学生時代に教えている間、すべての人を狂わせた。立っていられないんです。ええと、いや、それは実際に最も確かなことの1つです あなたは何ですか？
あなたはどうなの？いいかい？私は音の12月を支払うことになっている場合、私は知りません そのように話しているすべての権利はあります。それは
ケルトン:
"OK?"
うまくいってるかな
Kelton（ケルトン）：
「 あそこのロン？ああ ありがとうございました。このイベントを企画してくれたRowanと、裏方として働いてくれているすべての人たちに本当に感謝します。これはとてもクールなことで、私はすでに、技術が滞りなく行われ、私たちが皆ここにいて、この本当に重要な会話をしていることに感銘を受けています。私はプラチナ・ポイントの専門家ではありません。法律の専門家でもないので、私のバックグラウンドと専門知識は、別のレーンにいることだと思います。正直なところ、私はマクロ経済学者です。私はマクロ経済学者で、予算編成を教えたり、上院で働いたりしているので、予算闘争や、今日もまたデスストローク闘争のようなものを扱った経験が少しあります。私はまだ、それが何であるかについて人々から質問を受けています。最近、このことについて少し書きましたが、アメリカには、世界で唯一、他の国にはない債務上限というものがあり、しかも、この国のようにそれを武器化しないのは、おかしなことだと思います。
しかし、想像してみてください、皆さんのほとんどは法学部の学生です、私はこの部屋にいますか？
そうすると、契約上のコミットメントをするということがどういうことなのか、理解できますよね？レストランに入ったとします。Googleの人たちと一緒に座って、みんなが食事を注文すると、ウェイターが水を厨房に持って行って、シェフが車輪の準備に取り掛かります。注文したのはあなたですよね？注文をしたのだから、注文した料理の代金を支払う義務があるのです。誰が比較検討されている間、ウェイターは何度テーブルに戻り、安全を確保するのだろう。あなたは、Snapperをしたいのは確かですか？あなたは本当にあなただけのそれが起こることはないだろうというホタテをしたい。しかし、この感覚は、行政府との予算編成プロセスを通じて、すでに約束された支出を再確認するように、事実上議会に求めているのです。だから、本来ならかなり正常なプロセスを定期的に阻害するようなことを許すのは、おかしなことなのです。
議会で承認された支出を宝が引き受けてくれればいいのですが、今は2つの異なる種類の指示が一方に送られている状況なのです。一方では、これは行政府に使って欲しいというもので、他方では ところで、現在発行されている国債はもういらないよね？だからもう発行しないでください。
そして今日、フィリップ・ディールという人物が、国庫が指示したことを議会がすべて守れるようにする法案を起草するのに、大きな役割を果たしたのです。ちなみに、この通りを作ったのは議会で、それを通じて財務大臣が行うのです。さて、今日はそのことについてお話します。多くの人が抜け道と呼ぶものを悪用したもので、この法律における本来の意図などについては、これからもっと話を聞くことになると思います。しかし、現実には、憲法に違反するか、表面的には少し奇妙に見えると人々が言うようなことをするか、代替案はとても考えにくいように思えます。だから、」
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2013/1/8 -In minting the platinum coin, the Treasury Secretary would be exercising authority which Congress has granted routinely for more than 220 ...
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In Conversation Episode 1 | Why Gold When Economies Crash?
2022/11/05
35代USミント（アメリカ造幣局）ダイレクターの. Philip Diehlサイン入りです。 この1998-W年度は発行枚数 14,912枚 です。 NGC社 残存枚数 418枚 基準価格 2,500ドル
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I'll pick it up so.
「Yeah. I remember those fights right the physical cliff drama and the way that unfolded and for those who don't you know when Barack Obama was President and we were in a similar sort of place with respective fights of the raising debt selling women and so forth and there was this bipartisan deficit reduction commission Alan Simpson or skin Bowls the Simpson Bulls commission and recommendations were made. This is how we should bring about it was 2.4 trillion dollars in deficit reduction. Here's our proposal and certain number of members of the commission to vote for it. So many Fast Track and before they came up short, I think two votes And so we didn't get that but what we did end up with was the sequester which was you know, Democrats are opponents basically saying if we don't come together with some sort of agreement around deficit reduction, we're just going to hold hands Thelma and Louise style go over this fiscal cliff and then a series of across the board cuts to spending will automatically take place discretionary and non-discretionary. So the thinking was this was so hurt everyone because it Ben spending and non-defense discretionary. No, they would do anything to avoid it's Well turns out they didn't and we went over the clip and the cuts when into effect and this is part of the reason that you know, the recovery from the financial crisis was so underwhelming an evening is because you know, we got austerity in the form of you know, he's spending cuts that just fed on themselves you're out here until finally The Drug Administration. It was like we're lifting, you know, we're going back to spending money again, so So, you know, it's I'm gonna confess something rather strange, which is that on the drive-in this morning. I read read a book that I remember hearing as a child, which was the Brer Rabbit story and I sort of had it in my head for maybe I would write something marketing back to this. rare rabbit, right he says Don't throw me in the Briar Patch do does anybody remember this? Don't throw me in the Briar Patch. Don't throw me a Briar Patch where rabbit gets himself in a bit of trouble and the fox gets a hold of him and the rabbit tells the clocks, you know, just do anything. But whatever you do. Don't throw me in the Briar passion. There's there's one of the be so the fox Rose the rabbit in the dryer patch and that's precise trick, right? This is the way I'm sort of thinking about how things could play out with Democrats and Republicans in this, you know, I stay scheme of chicken that Rowan was just describing where you don't actually know how committed and Democrats are to avoiding, you know certain outcomes with respect to you know, spending cuts and so forth. Like I don't know that I'm as confident that there would hold the line and say we're not going to you know, 」
you just want to add one point to the game of chicken analogy that I think is important, you know like that all the White House to say, there's no other option just like if and so I think like to Roman's Point like Been some choice between like a follower cliff and pressing a funny button. You would hope that like that's a really obvious choice interestingly like the only entity that's saying that your face. Good, which ended disaster car entire economy going over and going into playing is also the entity that says there's no other options. Here's a little bit like the
「 treasury sector has said I think her word was never stop whatever it is, right. There is the recognition at least in her mind that we're Global Financial markets. Such a move would have extremely serious. Right consequences so that they are not making it clear from the outset under no certain stances. Will we let it get to that point we'll do what what is the whatever it takes just a little drug we here, right? Yeah, we'll do whatever it takes.」
そうですね。
ケルトン：
「バラク・オバマが大統領になったとき、私たちは同じような場所にいて、女性を売り込む負債の引き上げなど、それぞれの争いがありました。これは、2兆4千億ドルの赤字削減を実現する方法である。これが我々の提案で、委員会のメンバーの何人かがこれに投票することになっています。民主党の反対派は、基本的に、もし私たちが赤字削減に関してある種の合意に達しないなら、手をつないでテルマ＆ルイーズ式にこの財政の崖を越えて、裁量と非裁量の両方で一連の支出削減が自動的に行われることになるだろう、と言っています。
［"Thelma & Louise" - Ending Scene HD
テルマ&ルイーズ - Wikipedia
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%86%E3%83%AB%E3%83%9E%26%E3%83%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA
『テルマ&ルイーズ』（Thelma and Louise）は、1991年に公開されたアメリカ映画。監督はリドリー・スコット、脚本はカーリー・クーリ、主演はスーザン・サランドンとジーナ・デイヴィス。
第64回アカデミー賞において6部門にノミネートされ、脚本賞を受賞し、2016年にはアメリカ国立フィルム登録簿に追加された。
しばしば「90年代の女性版」アメリカン・ニュー・シネマと評されており、また、ブラッド・ピットの出世作としても知られる。
撮影の凡そ半分はユタ州モアブ市で、また映画の終盤で主役の2人が旅をするシーンはデッドホース・ポイント州立公園で敢行されている。］
この考え方は、ベン歳出と非国防裁量のため、誰もが傷つくというものでした。金融危機からの回復が圧倒的だった理由の一つは、緊縮財政という形で歳出削減が行われ、それが自らを蝕んでいったからです。だから、ちょっと不思議なことを告白します。
今朝、ドライブインで、覚えている本を読みました。子供の頃読んだ本に書いてあったのですが、それは「ブラーラビット」というお話で、これにちなんだマーケティング的なものを書こうかなと思って頭の中にあったのですが、珍しいウサギが、ブライアーパッチに僕を投げないで、と言うのですが、誰かこれ覚えてますか？Don't throw me in the Briar Patch（私をブライヤーパッチに放り込まないで）。ウサギがちょっと困ったことになって、キツネに捕まって、ウサギが時計に、あのね、何でもいいから、投げてくれって言うんです。でも何をするにしても 私をブライヤー・パッションに投げ込まないでください。そこにあるのはbeの一つだから、キツネは乾燥機パッチの中でウサギをバラバラにして、それが正確なトリックなんだろうか？
これは私が考えている方法で、民主党と共和党の間でどのように物事が展開される可能性があるかということです。民主党が、歳出削減などに関して、特定の結果を避けることにどれだけ献身的であるかは分かりませんが、私は、民主党が一線を画して、「こんなことはしない」と言う自信がありません。
［Song of the South (1946) - Briar Patch
（アメリカ版饅頭怖い）
『南部の唄』（なんぶのうた、原題: Song of the South）は、アメリカ合衆国のウォルト・ディズニー・プロダクション（現：ウォルト・ディズニー・カンパニー）により制作された実写とアニメーションからなる1946年11月12日公開の長編映画作品。日本では1951年10月19日に公開された。旧邦題は『南部の歌』（読み同じ）。
現在は、視聴が困難な作品になっている。
ジョニーが怪我を負った事を知ったジョンは急いでアトランタから農場へと駆けつけるが、サリーやジョンがいくら耳元で呼びかけても、ジョニーの意識は戻る事なく、「リーマスおじさん、帰ってきて」とうわ言を繰り返すばかりだった。
その時、やはり事の次第を知ったリーマスおじさんが農場へと引き返してくる。ジョニーの祖母に連れられ、枕元へとやってきたリーマスおじさんがもう一度「ブレア・ラビットの笑いの国」の話を聞かせると、その声に導かれるようにジョニーは意識を取り戻した。…］
男：
この「チキンゲーム」の例えに一点だけ付け加えると、ホワイトハウスが「他の選択肢はない」と言うのは重要なことだと思います。それは本当に明白な選択であるようにと願うだろう興味深いことに、あなたの顔を言っている唯一の存在のようなものです。災難車全体の経済を終わらせ、遊びに行く良い、また、他のオプションはありませんと言っているエンティティです。ここに少し似ています。
ケルトン：
「国庫部門は、彼女の言葉は、それが何であれ、決して停止しないと言ったと思う。少なくとも彼女の中では、私たちはグローバルな金融市場だという認識があるようです。そのような動きは極めて深刻です。そのため、特定のスタンスのもとで最初から明確にしているわけではありません。このままでは、私たちは何をすればいいのでしょうか？必要なことは何でもします。ええ、私たちはそれが取るものは何でもしますよ」。
From the ECB back over the day for those of you don't remember it you referring earlier. It's always funny but you lived through when you're teaching to realize. How yeah others have not seen it all first and we have a lot more but I might have been personally to try to open it up for the audience a little bit. I don't know if you good.
「sense not to raise the debt ceiling limit because they think it's a break on spending. And so if you're someone who's worried about inflation and the price of eggs and whatever your experiencing your life and then you hear that Congress might not raise the debt selling women. A lot of people were like well good because we need a break on spending but it's not a break on spending right? It doesn't permit the spending of anything beyond what's already been offer. 」
And I don't see like a frustrating dimension of that to me, which is that like this totally legitimate to say we should spend less like usually like the debates like a democratic country ought to him
「 that that's what I would say too. And this is Jenny yellins point, you know, we're all hoping that we can avoid and economic contraction but this seems like a pretty sure path to ensure one and defaulting and creating the kind of economic chaos. 」
the on the other side
あなたがそれを覚えていない人のために一日以上戻ってECBからあなたは以前を参照してください。それは常に面白いですが、あなたが実現するために教えているときを通して住んでいた。 私はあなたが良いのか分からない。
ケルトン：
このような状況下、「債務上限を引き上げないのは、支出を減らすためだ」と考えているのです。インフレや卵の値段を心配している人が、議会が債務上限を引き上げないかもしれないと聞いたら、多くの人が「それはいいことだ」と思うでしょう。多くの人は、支出を減らすのは良いことだが、それは支出を減らすことではない、と言うでしょう？しかし、これは支出を抑えるためのものではありません。」
つまり、民主主義国家がすべきこととして議論されているように、支出を減らすべきだというのは、まったく正当なことなのです。
ケルトン：
「というのは、私もそう思います。そして、これはジェニー・イェリンズの指摘ですが、私たちは皆、経済的な収縮を避けたいと願っていますが、これは確実に収縮し、デフォルトして経済的な混乱を引き起こす道のように思えます。」
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to spend and on the other hand. Oh, by the way,
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we don't want any more treasuries outstanding that are
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currently out there, right? So don't issue anymore.
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abide by everything that it's been instructed to
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do right don't issue any more treasures and spend
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what we told you to spend. And by the way, it was Congress who
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talk about today. I guess is exploiting what many
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the original intent in that legislation and
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so forth. But the reality is the alternatives
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do this thing that on the surface people say that seems
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a little weird right but I think Joe's in me
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women and so forth and there was this bipartisan deficit reduction
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commission Alan Simpson
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or skin Bowls the Simpson Bulls commission and recommendations were
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made. This is how we should bring about it was
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2.4 trillion dollars in deficit reduction. Here's
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our proposal and certain number of members of
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the commission to vote for it. So many Fast
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we're just going to hold hands Thelma and Louise style go over
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this fiscal cliff and then a series of across the
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board cuts to spending will automatically take place
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discretionary and non-discretionary. So the thinking was
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this was so hurt everyone because it Ben spending
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and non-defense discretionary. No, they would
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do anything to avoid it's Well turns out they didn't and we
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went over the clip and the cuts when
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evening is because you know, we got austerity in
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just fed on themselves you're out here until finally The Drug
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strange, which is that on the
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drive-in this morning. I read read
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a child, which was the Brer Rabbit story and I
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sort of had it in my head for maybe I would write
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something marketing back to this.
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rare rabbit, right he says
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Don't throw me in the Briar Patch. Don't throw me a Briar Patch where rabbit gets
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himself in a bit of trouble and the
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fox gets a hold of him and the rabbit tells the clocks, you
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know, just do anything. But whatever you do. Don't throw me
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in the Briar passion. There's there's one of the be so the
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fox Rose the rabbit in the dryer patch and
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that's precise trick, right? This is the way I'm sort
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this, you know, I stay scheme of chicken that Rowan
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committed and Democrats are to avoiding, you
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White House to say, there's no other option just like if
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your life and then you hear that Congress might not raise the
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debt selling women. A lot of people were like well good because we need
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a break on spending but it's not a break on spending right? It doesn't
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WEBVTT - このファイルは VIMEO 0 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.300によって自動的に生成されまし た。つまり、それらは 1 00:00:03.300 --> 00:00:06.100 エコノミーの外にあります。私はこれを知りませんでした 2 00:00:06.100 --> 00:00:10.300 学生時代の授業中に人々を夢中にさせました。じっと立っていられない。いいえ 3 00:00:09.300 --> 00:00:16.400 実際に最も確実な人物の 4 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:18.600 あなたは？わかった？私は 5 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:20.300 6 00 :00:20.300 --> 00:00:23. 7 00:00:23.700 --> 00:00:27.900 それ。それは大丈夫ですか？あそこにいるロンのために働いていますか？うん。 8 00:00:26.900 --> 00:00:29.300ありがとうござい ます。 9 00:00:29.300 --> 00:00:32.400 ローワンさん、これを準備してくれて本当にありがとう 10 00:00:32.400 --> 00:00:35.400 そして裏側の仕事をしているすべての人たち私の最初の 11 00:00:35.400 --> 00:00:38.900 精神病の 出来事。これはかなりクールで、私はすでに感銘を受けました 12 00:00:38.900 --> 00:00:41.500 テクノロジーが 13 00:00:41.500 --> 00:00:44.500 滞りなく機能 し、ここにいる全員が一緒にこれを持っていることは本当に重要だと思います 14 00:00:44.500 --> 00:00:48.100 会話。 15 00:00:48.100 --> 00:00:51.500私 はプラチナ ポイントの専門家ではありません。私は法的な専門家ではありません 16 00:00:51.500 --> 00:00:54.400 専門家なので、経歴と 17 00:00:54.400 --> 00:00:57.400 専門知識は 18 00 にあると思います: 00:57.400 --> 00:00:59.000 別のレーン。私は正直です。 19 00:00:59.900 --> 00:01:03.100 マクロ経済学者と私は資金調達を教えています 20 00:01:02.100 --> 00:01:05.200 予算編成と、ご存知のように私は上院で働いています 21 00:01 :05.200 --> 00:01:08.500 22 00:01:08.500 --> 00:01:12.100 ある種の予算争いや、私たちが扱われている種類のものに 対処した経験が少しあります 23 00:01:11.100 --> 00: 01:14.500 今日もまた 24頃 00:01:14.500 --> 00:01:17.300 25 00 :01:17.300 --> 00:01: 20.300債務上限。私は 26 00:01:20.300 --> 00:01:23.600 それが何であるかについて人々からまだ質問を受けています。私は 27 00:01:23.600 --> 00:01:26.800 最近これについて少し書いていて、あなたは 28 00:01:26.800 --> 00:01:29.100 ご存知のように、私が米国にいるのはおかしいです 29 00:01:29.100 --> 00:01:32.400 州にはすべての債務上限があります 30 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:35.200 1つだけではありません 31 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:37.000私たちがここで行っている ように兵器化しないでください。 32 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.800 しかし想像してみてください 33 00 :01:41.800 --> 00:01:44.500あなた は法学部の学生ですか？ :01:44.500 --> 00:01:47.700 この部屋？35 00:01: 47.700 --> 00:01:50.900 契約上の義務ですよね？だから私は 36 00:01:50.900 --> 00:01:53.400 これについて考え、あなたを想像してみてください 37 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:55.000 レストランに行きます。 38 00:01:55.500 --> 00:01:58.800 グーグルの人たちと一緒に座って、皆が注文します 39 00:01:58.800 --> 00:02:01.500 彼らの食事とウェイターが私を連れて行きます 40 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:04.400 キッチンに水を流し、シェフがろくろの下ごしらえに取り掛かります。 41 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.200 あなたは大丈夫ですよね？ 42 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.600 で注文しました 注文した料理の代金を支払う義務。 43 00:02:10.600 --> 00:02:13.500 ウェイターがテーブルに戻ってくるのは何回ですか 44 00:02:13.500 --> 00:02:16.900 比べて安全です 本当にスナッパーが欲しいですか？あなたは 45 00:02:16.900 --> 00:02:19.400 本当にホタテ貝が欲しい 46 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.100 決して起こらないだろう. 誰もあなたに戻ってきて、あなたに尋ねませんでした 47 00:02:22.100 --> 00:02:25.300 発注 したら注文を再確認してください 48 00:02:25.300 --> 00:02:28.400 それはその気持ちです。効果的 に . _ _ _ _ _ _ > 00:02:37.500 行政府と。 52 00:02:37.500 --> 00:02:40.700 クレイジーなこと53 00 :02:40.700 --> 00:02:44.600 これを定期的に妨害する 54 00:02:43.600 - -> 00:02:46.600 かなり正常な 55 00:02:46.600 --> 00:02:49.900 プロセスです。私は支出を望みます 56 00:02:49.900 --> 00:02:53.200 議会によって承認され、着手されました 57 00:02:52.200 --> 00:02:55.200 お宝で、今は 58 00:02:55.500 --> 00:02:58.900 この状況では、2 つの異なる情報を知っている 59 00:02:58.900 - -> 00:03:01.200 一連の命令セットが 60 00:03:01.200 --> 00:03:04.600 送信されています。これは、執行部門 61 00:03:04.600 --> 00:03:07.000 に支出してもらいたいものです。ところで、 62 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:10.700 63 00:03:10.700 --> 00:03:13.100 現在そこにある、 これ以上の未払いの財務省は必要ありません。 ? だから、もう発行しないでください。64 . _ _ _ _ _ _ 20.500 --> 00:03:24.100 67 00:03:23.100 --> 00:03:27.200 議会 はそれに従うようだ68 00:03:26.200 --> 00:03: 29.400国庫に69 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.500 指示されたことはすべて守る70 00:03:32.500 --> 00:03:35.300 正しいことをしなさい これ以上宝物を発行せずに使う71 00:03:35.300 --> 00:03:38.900 私たちがあなたに使うように言ったもの。ちなみに、 72 00:03:38.900 --> 00:03:42.400 73 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:43.000 を 通る大通りを作成したのは議会でした74 00:03:44.200 -- > 00:03:47.200彼を大切にしてやってください。75 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:50.600今日はそれ について話します。76 00:03:50.600 --> 00:03:54.000 が抜け道を呼んでいるものを悪用していると思います77 00:03:53.600 --> 00:03:56.200 きっと聞くでしょう78 00:03:56.200 --> 00:03:59.500その 法律の本来の意図と79 00:03:59.500 --> 00:04:03.500 など。しかし、現実には選択肢があります 80 00:04:02.500 --> 00:04:06.300 それは私にはかなりのようです 81 00:04:05.300 --> 00:04:08.800 違反するかどうかは考えられません 82 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.900 なんらかの 形での構成またはあなた 83 00:04:11.900 --> 00:04:14.900 人々が表面上そう言うことを行う 84 00:04:14.900 -- > 00:04:17.100 少し変ですが、ジョーは私の中にいると思います 85 00:04:17.100 --> 00:04:20.800 コインがどのように使用されるかについての非常に良い点 86 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04 :23.600 87 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.500 お金を生み出すこと に関して私たちが行う最も奇妙なことのようなものであり、 88 00:04:26.500 --> 00:04:29.700 支出であり、歴史的にはおそらく 89 00:04:29.700 --> 00:04:33.300 興奮させる最も普通の方法です。 90 00:04:32.300 --> 00:04:35.000 それで、ええ、私はそれを拾いますので 91 00:04:36.500 --> 00:04:37.300 ええ。 92 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.800 私はそれらの戦いを覚えています 物理的な崖のドラマ 93 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.400 そしてその展開と 94 00:04:45.400 - -> 00:04:48.600 バラク・オバマがいつ大統領だった か知らない人のため に 96 00:04:51.100 --> 00:04 : 54.200 97 00:04:54.200 --> 00:04:58.200女性などを売却するそれぞれの戦いで、 この超党派の赤字削減がありました98 00:04:57.200 --> 00:05:00.600 アラン・シンプソン委員会99 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.000 またはスキン シンプソン ブルズの委員会と推奨事項が100 00:05:03.300 --> 00:05:06.400 作成されました。101 00:05: 06.400 --> 00:05:09.400 赤字削減で2.4兆ドル。これが 102 00:05:09.400 --> 00:05:12.400 私たちの提案と一定数のメンバー 103 00:05:12.400 --> 00:05:15.300 それに投票する委員会です。非常に多くの高速 104 00:05:15.300 --> 00:05:17.900 追跡し、不足する前に、2票だと思います 105 00:05:18.200 --> 00:05:21.200 そして、取得できませんでした 106 00:05:21.200 --> 00:05:24.700私 たちが最終的に手に入れたのは、あなたである隔離者でした 107 00:05:24.700 --> 00:05:27.600 民主党は基本的に反対派であり、一緒にはならない 108 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.500 赤字削減に関する何らかの合意がある場合、 109 00:05:31.500 --> 00:05:34.200 手を取り合うだけです テルマとルイーズのスタイルは 110 00:05:34.200 --> 00:05: 37.300 この財政の崖とその後の一連の 111 00:05:37.300 --> 00:05:40.500 歳出に対する ボードカットは自動的に行われます 112 00:05:40.500 --> 00:05:43.200 裁量的で非-任意。したがって、考え方は 113 00:05:43.200 --> 00:05:46.600 でした114 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.300 ベンが自由裁量で支出したため、これはすべての人を傷つけました 。いいえ、彼らは115 117 _ _ _ _ _ 118 00:05 : 58.800 --> 00:06:01.900 金融危機からの回復は119 00: . _ _ _ _ _ _ . _ _ _ あなたは自分自身を養っただけで、最終的にドラッグまでここにいます 123 00:06:13.900 --> 00:06:16.000 管理。持ち上げているようなものでした 124 00:06:16.300 --> 00:06:18.100 またお金を使うことに戻ります 125 00:06:18.200 --> 00:06:22.100 126 00:06:21.100 --> 00:06:24.300 127 00 :06:24.300 --> 00:06:27.300 ドライブ のことです今朝。私は読んだ本を読みました128 00:06:27.300 --> 00:06:30.300 聞いたことを覚えている本129 00:06:30.300 --> 00:06:33.700 130 00:06:33.700 --> 00:06:36.200 頭 の中にあった 131 00:06:36.200 --> 00:06: 37.700 何かのマーケティングがこれに戻ります。 . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 06:45.400 --> 00:06:45.800 これ？ 135 00:06:47.400 --> 00:06:50.500 ブライアー パッチに投げ込まないでください。うさぎが 136 00:06:50.500 --> 00:06:53.500 ちょっとしたトラブルに巻き込まれ、 . _ _ _ _ _ しかし、あなたが何をしても。 139 00:06:59.200 --> 00:07:02.600 ブライアの情熱に投げ込まないでください。 140 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.100キツネ ドライヤー パッチでウサギをバラしました 141 00:07:05.100 --> 00:07:08.500 正確なトリックですよね? これが私のやり方です 142 00:07:08.500 --> 00:07:11.500 物事がどのように展開するかについて 143 00:07:11.500 --> 00:07:14 . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . _ _ _ _ _ _ 31.500 特定の結果を知っている 149 00:07:31.500 --> 00:07:34.200 ご存知 のように、支出削減と 150 00:07:34.200 --> 00:07:37.500 など。 151 00:07:37.500 --> 00:07:40.400保持できる と確信している . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . _ _ _ _ _ _ --> 00:07:55.200ホワイトハウスは、もし157 00:07:55.200 --> 00:07:57.700 のように他に選択肢はないと言う ので、158 00:07:58.200 - -> 00:08:01.800フォロワーの崖のようにするか、159を押すかのどちらかを選択しました 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.800 面白いボタンです 160 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.500 本当に明白な選択であることを願っています 161 00:08:07.500 --> 00:08:09.200 あなたの顔を言っている唯一のエンティティ. 162 00:08:09.500 --> 00:08:12.500 よかった、災害車全体の経済を終わらせた 163 00:08:12.500 --> 00:08:15.300 行き来して遊ぶことも実体です 164 00:08 :15.300 --> 00:08:18.900 他に選択肢はありません。 これは165に少し似ています 00:08:18.900 --> 00:08:21.100財務部門が言った 彼女の言葉は166 だったと思います 00:08:21.100 --> 00:08:24.200 何があっても止めないでね 167 00:08 : 24.200 --> 00:08:27.800少なくとも 彼女の心には、私たちが 世界の金融市場であるという認識があります。169 00:08:30.100 --> 00:08:34.600そのような動きは非常に深刻です。170 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:39.600正しい結果であるため、彼らはそれを明らかにしていません171 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.900 特定のスタンスではありません。意志172 00:08:42.900 --> 00:08:45.800 その点まで到達させます173 00:08:45.800 --> 00:08:48.500 私たちがここにいるのはほんの少しの薬ですよね？ 174 00:08:48.500 --> 00:08:50.400 ええ、何でもします。 175 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:54.300 176 00 :08:54.300 --> 00:08:57.200 以前に言及したことを覚えていません。 177 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:59.500 いつもおかしなことですが、実現することを教えている間、あなたは生きてきました。 178 00:08:59.800 --> 00:09:03.800 他の人が最初にそれをすべて見たわけではなく、私たちは 179 00:09:02.800 --> 00:09:05.100もっとたくさんありましたが、私は180 00 だったかもしれません:09:05.100 --> 00:09:08.500 個人的には、聴衆に少し開放しようとしています。私は知りません 181 00:09:08.500 --> 00:09:11.400 債務を増やさないのが賢明かどうかはわかりません 182 00:09:11.400 --> 00:09: 14.700支出について。 183 00:09:14.700 --> 00:09:17.900あなた がインフレを心配している人で、 184 00:09:17.900 --> 00:09:20.700 卵の価格とあなたが経験していることは何でも 185 00 . _ _ _ _ 187 00:09:26.400 --> 00:09:29.400 支出の中断ですが、支出の中断ではありませんよね? 188 00:09:29.400 --> 00:09:32.500 189 00:09:32.500 --> 00:09:33.400 すでに提供されている ものを超える支出は許可されません。. _ _ _ _ _ 192 00:09:39.300 --> 00:09:42.700 討論会のような通常のように支出を減らすべきだと言う193 00 :09:42.700 --> 00:09:45.100 民主的な国は彼にすべきだ194 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:48.400 私もそうです。そして、これはジェニー・イェリンズのポイントです、 195 00:09:48.400 --> 00:09:51.800 ご存知のように、私たちは皆、収縮を避けて経済的にできることを望んでいます 196 00:09:51.800 --> 00:09: 54.500しかし、これは 197 00:09:54.500 --> 00:09:59.900のように見えます198 00:09:58.900 --> 00:10:01.100をデフォルト設定 し、種類199 00:10を作成 する確実なパスのようです: 01.100 --> 00:10:02.200 経済の混乱。200 00:10:04.500 --> 00:10:05.600反対側
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