2022年8月18日木曜日

2022/08/18 Dan Rohdeさんのツイート　地域通貨談義

Dan Rohdeさんのツイート　地域通貨談義
https://love-and-theft-2014.blogspot.com/2022/08/20220818-dan-rohde.html @





　
 
 
Victor "There is Monetary Disorder" Short 🌷🧱
⁦‪@Victor_M_Short‬⁩
⁦‪@DanEricRohde‬⁩ Very cool. What year was this? Remember finding a 1933 booklet in Calgary archives from the US Bureau of Agriculture listing scrip experiments across North America.
 
2022/08/17 5:19
 
 
https://twitter.com/victor_m_short/status/1559635960077377537?s=21

とてもかっこいい。これは何年でしたか？米国農務省がカルガリーのアーカイブで 1933 年の小冊子を見つけたことを思い出してください。

これは 1933 年 8 月 16 日の BC 州トウモロコシ生産者協会の会長である WF トンプソンの証言です。この証言からは、プロジェクトがいつ開始され、どのくらいの期間続いたのか正確にはわかりません。

1933 年は、このようなものが世間の注目を集め始めた年と思われます。フィッシャーの印紙と彼のロビー活動と宣伝キャンペーンのためだと思います。
　
 
 
ben bradley
⁦‪@benbradleyca‬⁩
⁦‪@DanEricRohde‬⁩ ⁦‪@Victor_M_Short‬⁩ chilliwack progress is available on newspapers.com
 
2022/08/17 6:22
 
 
https://twitter.com/benbradleyca/status/1559651881626079233?s=21


1932 年(Iのクリーマリー チケットに関するエピソードがあり、国民の注目を集めました。これは、その年の所得税のしきい値が引き下げられたため、課税対象レベル内の収入が少なくなったためです。 「税金の支払いに使えるか」ではなく、「これは収入だったのか」という質問です。詳細は後述



‪cf.‬


Irving Fisher: Stamp Scrip; 1933 
1933b. Stamp Scrip. full text online
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/roehrigw/fisher/


LETSystems - the Home Page


https://archive.lets.net/gmlets/home.html


LETSystems - new money 

https://archive.lets.net/gmlets/explore/home.html

An overview of LETSystems, local currencies and the future of money 

by Michael Linton, designer of the LETSystem. 



‪LETSystems - new money ‬

‪https://archive.lets.net/gmlets/explore/home.html‬

‪An overview of LETSystems, local currencies and the future of money ‬

‪by Michael Linton, designer of the LETSystem. ‬


‪（He probably lives in BC, Canada.）

　


Local exchange trading system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_exchange_trading_system#Further_reading


we

have

The sad plight of the corn-growers is that the

banking system with its thirty days and three months

terms does not give any particular assistance. We

planted this corn a year ago last May and June; we

cared for it; we picked it; we transported it to the

cannery, and canned it, and now it has been all sold

with the exception of about twelve hundred cases,

and the farmers would not have been able to receive

a cent to help them out if it had not been that the

Company, the Co-operative concern, issued script

last January to care for the farmers during the winter.

They were in many cases badly in need of money for

groceries and clothing, and in order to avoid accepting

-

orders in their accounts in the cannery thoy decided

it would be good business to issue script, which was

accepted by the merchants of Chilliwack for goods,

and by the garages and other business men of Chilliwack,

but not by the banks. They are accepted by some

municipal councils for taxes that is, for certain

taxos, for dog taxes and head taxes, and taxos of that

nature. This left the farmers with the script of

about sixty por cent. of the guaranteed prico of the

corn, eight dollars per ton, which amount they received

in January six dollars per ton in script. The

merchants carried this script because they could not

cash it at the bank, because they were fully assured

we were as much behind it dollar for dollar as behind

the Canadian dollar, because the canned corn was there

and amply protected by the National Warehousing Company

for everything which went in and went out.

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ーーーーー The sad plight of the corn-growers is that the banking system with its thirty days and three months terms does not give any particular assistance. We planted this corn a year ago last May and June; we cared for it; we picked it; we transported it to the cannery, and canned it, and now it has been all sold with the exception of about twelve hundred cases, and the farmers would not have been able to receive a cent to help them out if it had not been that the Company, the Co-operative concern, issued script last January to care for the farmers during the winter. They were in many cases badly in need of money for groceries and clothing, and in order to avoid accepting - orders in their accounts in the cannery thoy decided it would be good business to issue script, which was accepted by the merchants of Chilliwack for goods, and by the garages and other business men of Chilliwack, but not by the banks. They are accepted by some municipal councils for taxes that is, for certain taxos, for dog taxes and head taxes, and taxos of that nature. This left the farmers with the script of about sixty por cent. of the guaranteed prico of the corn, eight dollars per ton, which amount they received in January six dollars per ton in script. The merchants carried this script because they could not cash it at the bank, because they were fully assured we were as much behind it dollar for dollar as behind the Canadian dollar, because the canned corn was there and amply protected by the National Warehousing Company for everything which went in and went out.


 

ーー ダン・ローデ @DanEricRohde 即席の地域通貨に関するこの興味深い話をご覧ください。大恐慌で銀行からの融資を断られたトウモロコシ栽培の協同組合が発行し始めたスクリプトは、地元の商人や、自治体でも一部の税金の支払いに利用された！ pic.twitter.com/ZkhACOyP6p 2022/08/17 4:53 https://twitter.com/danericrohde/status/1559629461410152451?s=21 


ーーーー トウモロコシ生産者の悲しい現状は、30日や3ヶ月という期間の銀行制度が、特別な援助を与えてくれないことです。1年前の5月と6月にこのトウモロコシを植え、手入れをし、収穫し、缶詰工場に運んで缶詰にし、今では約1200ケースを除いてすべて売られてしまいました。多くの場合、食料品や衣料品の購入にひどく困窮しており、缶詰工場の口座で注文を受けるのを避けるために、スクリプトを発行することが良いビジネスであると判断したのである。しかし、銀行では通用しません。一部の自治体では、税金、つまり、犬税や頭税などの税金として受け入れられています。このため農民は、トウモロコシの保証価格である1トン当たり8ドルの約60パーセントを台本として持ち、1月に1トン当たり6ドルの台本を受け取った。商人たちは、銀行で現金化できないからこそ、この台本を携帯していた。カナダドルと同じように、ドルに対してもドルに対しても遅れていることが十分に保証されていたからであり、缶詰のトウモロコシはそこにあり、出入りするものすべてに対して国立倉庫会社によって十分に保護されていたからである。


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 Dan Rohde ⁦‪@DanEricRohde‬⁩ Check out this fascinating story of an impromptu community currency. When denied bank loans in the Depression, a corn-grower coop started issuing script that was accepted by local merchants for payments, and even by local municipalities for some taxes! pic.twitter.com/ZkhACOyP6p 2022/08/17 4:53 https://twitter.com/danericrohde/status/1559629461410152451?s=21 

we have The sad plight of the corn-growers is that the banking system with its thirty days and three months terms does not give any particular assistance. We planted this corn a year ago last May and June; we cared for it; we picked it; we transported it to the cannery, and canned it, and now it has been all sold with the exception of about twelve hundred cases, and the farmers would not have been able to receive a cent to help them out if it had not been that the issued script Company, the Co-operative concern, last January to care for the farmers during the winter. They were in many cases badly in need of money for groceries and clothing, and in order to avoid accepting - orders in their accounts in the cannery thoy decided it would be good business to issue script, which was accepted by the merchants of Chilliwack for goods, and by the garages and other business men of Chilliwack, but not by the banks. They are accepted by some municipal councils for taxes that is, for certain taxos, for dog taxes and head taxes, and taxos of that nature. This left the farmers with the script of about sixty por cent. of the guaranteed prico of the corn, eight dollars per ton, which amount they received in January six dollars per ton in script. The merchants carried this script because they could not cash it at the bank, because they were fully assured we were as much behind it dollar for dollar as behind the Canadian dollar, because the canned corn was there and amply protected by the National Warehousing Company for everything which went in and went out. - -


トウモロコシ栽培者の悲しい窮状は、30日や3ヶ月という期限の銀行システムは特に援助をしてくれないということだ。そのため、このような弊順の嶄で、弊順の? 多くの場合、食料品や衣料品の購入にひどく困窮しており、缶詰工場の口座で注文を受けるのを避けるために、彼らはスクリプトを発行することが良いビジネスであると判断した。しかし、銀行では通用しません。一部の自治体では、税金、つまり、犬税や頭税などの税金として受け入れられています。このため農民は、トウモロコシの保証価格である1トン当たり8ドルの約60パーセントを台本として持ち、1月に1トン当たり6ドルの台本を受け取った。商人たちは、銀行で現金化できないからこそ、この経典を持ち歩いた。カナダドルと同じように、ドルに対してもドルに対しても遅れていることが十分に保証されていたからである。- -
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